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I thought these fellows were making a very good go of it here. They were trying to help people think of real world ways to access a spiritual practice, or just plain figure out what everyone is talking about. I was coming in and out of it, dozing and waking, dozing and waking, but it struck me how level-headed they were. They even talked about the pitfall of the childish approach. One of them even mentioned a Sufi who cut him off for this dependence thing. So there are some extremely good points being made in here. Whatever you think about anything, there is value in listening to these guys.
No. Really. If you find yourself being drawn always to bliss ninny sites, wanting to explore some of the stuff they purport to be dealing with, but continually being vexed by their complete lack of any basis in fundamental sense, these guys have made a good start here of releasing you from the grip of those ninnies, pointing to some actual ways to look into it as an adult, as a responsible grown up human who wants to do better... as a being who wants to stop wasting time.
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